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in heartgold/soulsilver you go to the embedded tower after you get the jade orb
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Yes, Groudon needs to come from SoulSilver in order for you to get the Jade Orb from Professor Oak in his lab in Pallet Town. The Jade Orb will awaken Rayquaza in the Embedded Tower which is by Cianwood City.
You have to have both Kyogre and Groudon. You get the Red Orb from Mr. Pokemon to catch Groudon in the Embedded Tower. In addition, the Groudon has to be from SoulSilver and the Kyogre must be from HeartGold. Show them to Professor Oak for the Jade Orb to awaken Rayquayza.
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