after you have 16 badges go and talk to Mr.pokemon he will give you the red orb
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First off, the Red Orb has nothing to do with the Ruins of Alph on Pokemon Heartgold or Soulsilver. The Red Orb is used at the Embedded Tower to summon Groudon. This Pokemon can only be obtained in Pokemon Soulsilver.
in pokemon heartgold after you beat red and get your 2 starters you go to mr. pokemon and he'll give you the blue orb to kyorgre
Well first I should clear up that the Red Orb is for SoulSilver, and the Blue Orb is for HeartGold, but you must defeat Red in order to get it.
You have to have both Kyogre and Groudon. You get the Red Orb from Mr. Pokemon to catch Groudon in the Embedded Tower. In addition, the Groudon has to be from SoulSilver and the Kyogre must be from HeartGold. Show them to Professor Oak for the Jade Orb to awaken Rayquayza.
Groudon is a Ground type legendary Pokemon and the mascot of Pokemon Ruby. It can only be found in Pokemon Ruby, Pokemon Emerald, and in Pokemon SoulSilver is the player obtains a Red Orb.