I have to do it in parts because it is too long PART 1) Well, Most of you were correct or close but when you think about it all the signs point to Madara being Obito. When Obito got crushed by the rocks he only got crushed on his left side and he gave his left eye to Kakashi and when you see Tobi stand up, he stands on his right side on a slouch (the side he didnt get crushed on) and on the video and on the manga you didnt actuall see him die you saw him come close to death. Some people say Zetsu got him but i don't see any evidence. I think that Madara used a jutsu or something that fused himself with Obito because Tobi has a hole in his mask where his sharingan is but it doesnt show the other side (the side with no eye) Madara saw this as an oppertunity to have a body and abilities that's why people say Madara cant be Tobi because he would be old that's a reason why he could be fused with Obito. Because he is in a young body..PART 2) On one of the chapters Pain or Tobi say I, HAVE THE POWER, THE POWER OF MADARA. Or something like that. That's why people think that Tobi is Madara but that also gives the clue that Tobi could just have the power and abilities of Madara but in Obitos body because why would Madara Have a hole on only one side of the mask. Here are some reason why it could be Obito:1.) He wears a mask with only a hole on the right side of his face where his only sharingan would be. He doesn't have another eye. His mask is also orange like Obito's googles.
2.) The hair is the same as Obito's.
3.)Madara Uchiha would be hundreds of years old as to you never seeing Obito acually die in the manga. He jusy gets covered by rocks. And his body was never recovered because they were in hostile territory. Also, this is Naruto. If you do not see them acually die, there is always a chance of them coming back. You can say Madara might have done the same things as Orochimaru so that he can live forever, but I highly doubt Uchiha Madara would do those "sick" experiments on his body. Plus he would be about the age or at least stature as Obito.
4.)When you see him stand a couple of times, he stands as if the right side of him body is disfigured. Also, every part of his body is covered so you cannot see if there are any disfigurments or not.
5.) Tobi only claims that he has Madara's power, not that he is Madara, (even though Pein calls him Madara in Chapter 384, but he might just not know Tobi's true identity. That is probably why he wears a mask).
6.) The name Tobi resembles Obito. (And Tobi is a pretty out of place name when most all of the other names are Japanese).
7.) He acts relaxed in the same manner as Obito did.
8.) Obito thinks to himself that he wishes that he could have spent more time with them, which is like a sign that a character is coming back.
Also if you rearrange OBITO and switch the OB and the TO back to front, You get Tobi. And if you fuse all them ideas and put thme with the fact of madara reviving OBito from the rocks and having a body instead of being old and all the things ive previously said it all comes together and pints to MADARA+OBITO=TOBI. Hope this clears things up. =)
Manga Chapter 599 just revealed for a fact that Tobi IS Obito. Thank you for wondering and working it out for so long, your efforts are now rewarded!
Many things in the last few chapters leading up to the reveal hinted strongly at it: Both Kakashi's and Tobi's Sharingan powers involve space-time ninjutsu (Kamui), and it is known from Itachi/Naruto's interaction with Shisui's eye power (Kotoamatsukami, I believe) that similar eye powers usually come from the same person's eyes. Kakashi confirmed this when he discovered that objects he disappeared with Kamui inhabited the same alternate dimension as Tobi's vanished subjects/objects.
Also, it is revealed through dialogue that Tobi knows both Kakashi and Might Guy more intimately than would otherwise be expected (and it is revealed in the latest chapter 599 that Guy beat Obito on a number of occasions, as well as, of course, Obito and Kakashi being on the same team).
Dialogue also revealed that part of Tobi's drive to implement the Eye of the Moon plan is because he doesn't want "a world where heroes stand grieving at graves" (not an exact quote), which can be linked to the death of Rin after Obito's supposed death and Kakashi's habit of standing in front of the memorial stone in the village often.
______________________________________________________________ I do not know if Tobi is Obito, but it has been confirmed that Tobi is not Madara Uchiha. When Kabuto asked Tobi if he could join his side in the war, Kabuto summoned five former akatsuki memebers, and a sixth coffin. It was later revealed that the person in the sixth coffin was Madara Uchiha.
______________________________________________________________ According to manga, Tobi is Madara Uchiha but not Obito. Manga never stated that Obito's body is used by Madara or he is Obito. It is only fan based assumption. But also in the manga it states when Kakashi asked Tobi "What would you have most in life." Tobi replied" a complete body." And he is infused with the fourth hokage's genes that would explain the other half of his body being there.
Some people say that it is Tobi is Obito, due to many pieces of evidence and also things that wouldn't add up if Tobi was Madara. For example, Obito gave his left sharingan eye to Kakashi, and Tobi has a hole for his right eye, so that's a possibility. Also it has been said that if Tobi was Madara, then Madara must be over a century old (Sourced from a different location).
At the moment, the Mangas have told us that Tobi is Madara, but I'm not sure if it has been proven that Tobi is Obito or that Madara is using Obito's body, as told below. For the time being, The Tobi/Obito theory is possibly ust a fan-made one, although it seems that it could become a reality quite easily with all the information.
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The Truth is Uchiha *Madara is using Obito's body. When Obito Uchiha is dying, he gave his sharingan to Kakashi Hatake, that is why Kakashi has only one Sharingan. So, that is why Tobi wears a mask with only one eye hole, he has only one Sharingan. Obito Survives because Zetsu, a member of Akatsuki found him and made him a member of Akatsuki
Uchiha Madara, on the other hand is Immortal, he fought Hashirama, the first hokage of Konoha, He is the one who Summoned the Nine-Tailed Fox, He used Obito's body to be recognized as "TOBI".
that may be true and in supporting your idea i never thought about it but the word Tobi is inside obito rearranged!!!! and also if you remember obito's right side was "crushed" and the left side wasn't so kakashi has his left eye as sharingan and Tobi has one eyehole which is on the right side (side that got crushed?!!?) so that just some extra evidence.
I'm very confused?????
by curryishott14 and tobi07
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Now you said ZETZU did find him so i belie that now but heere is some more stuff lol I have to do it in parts because it is too long PART 1) Well, Most of you were correct or close but when you think about it all the signs point to Madara being Obito. When Obito got crushed by the rocks he only got crushed on his left side and he gave his left eye to Kakashi and when you see Tobi stand up, he stands on his right side on a slouch (the side he didnt get crushed on) and on the video and on the manga you didnt actuall see him die you saw him come close to death. Some people say Zetsu got him but i don't see any evidence. I think that Madara used a jutsu or something that fused himself with Obito because Tobi has a hole in his mask where his sharingan is but it doesnt show the other side (the side with no eye) Madara saw this as an oppertunity to have a body and abilities that's why people say Madara cant be Tobi because he would be old that's a reason why he could be fused with Obito. Because he is in a young body..PART 2) On one of the chapters Pain or Tobi say I, HAVE THE POWER, THE POWER OF MADARA. Or something like that. That's why people think that Tobi is Madara but that also gives the clue that Tobi could just have the power and abilities of Madara but in Obitos body because why would Madara Have a hole on only one side of the mask. Here are some reason why it could be Obito:1.) He wears a mask with only a hole on the right side of his face where his only sharingan would be. He doesn't have another eye. His mask is also orange like Obito's googles.
2.) The hair is the same as Obito's.
3.)Madara Uchiha would be hundreds of years old as to you never seeing Obito acually die in the manga. He jusy gets covered by rocks. And his body was never recovered because they were in hostile territory. Also, this is Naruto. If you do not see them acually die, there is always a chance of them coming back. You can say Madara might have done the same things as Orochimaru so that he can live forever, but I highly doubt Uchiha Madara would do those "sick" experiments on his body. Plus he would be about the age or at least stature as Obito.
4.)When you see him stand a couple of times, he stands as if the right side of him body is disfigured. Also, every part of his body is covered so you cannot see if there are any disfigurments or not.
5.) Tobi only claims that he has Madara's power, not that he is Madara, (even though Pein calls him Madara in Chapter 384, but he might just not know Tobi's true identity. That is probably why he wears a mask).
6.) The name Tobi resembles Obito. (And Tobi is a pretty out of place name when most all of the other names are Japanese).
7.) He acts relaxed in the same manner as Obito did.
8.) Obito thinks to himself that he wishes that he could have spent more time with them, which is like a sign that a character is coming back.
Also if you rearrange OBITO and switch the OB and the TO back to front, You get Tobi. And if you fuse all them ideas and put thme with the fact of madara reviving OBito from the rocks and having a body instead of being old and all the things ive previously said it all comes together and pints to MADARA+OBITO=TOBI. Hope this clears things up. =)it is Madara it is even stated in the kakashi chronicles&naruto ultimate ninja storm2
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well if you read the manga naruto shippuden 602 it states that obito was saved by the Legendary Madara uchiha he had white long spikey hair to prove it and his weapon plus sharigan obito noticed that then he he asked then in chapter 600 it also proves that madara died because he was one of them brought back by kabuto. then while in the battle with naruto to it also proves that madara was the trainer of tobi and told his past read 603 on 9/26/12 to get more infomation
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Clearly shown in the animae he was never recovered and he never died and there is a slight chance that zetsu found him because zetsu has seen more than a million battles zetsu is really old and he could've recovered him and they joined alliance and created akasuki and tobi couldn't be madara because madara is revived with both eyes and personality and tobi walks in a funny way leaning more left,when the kyuubi attacks the leaf when minato was becoming hokage you see obito hair style more fluent and at close up you see the stretch in his face vs konan and a bandage which probably caused a brain damage to make him sound different and memory loss until he activates sharingan fully and has you can see he switched the letters so ovy that tobi is obito
No, Madara does not die.... at all. Madara (aka Tobi) is immortal, so therefore he does not die. ;)
Because Tobi is from First hokage generation and Obito was from Kakashi generation.
Tobi and Obito are not the same person. Tobi is Madara Uchiha. It was confirmed by himself. He will be unmasked later in the series.
Tobi IS Uchiha Madara. It is revealed sometime after Sasuke kills Orochimaru. It can't be Madara because in recent manga chapters Madara has been revealed to be kabuto's secret weapon among the people he resurrected using his impure resurrection technique. I'm guessing it's Obito now. Tobi is not anyone from the Uchiha clan. Tobi is not even a user of Fire Release. The AFFINITY of all Uchiha clan members is Fire Release. Tobi uses only Earth Release. It is Madara Uchiha, the person that would be the first hokage, but he loses his battle and the honor of the Uchiha. (Orochimaru has got his body, so he takes the body of Obito, the uncle of Sasuke, that gives his sharingan to Kakashi) Obito's face is deformed so he takes a mask.
Kakashi, Obito, Rin and Minato Namikaze (the leader) were students in the same team. Obito dies and later on it emerges that Tobi is, in fact, Madara Uchiha. No because obito is not Tobi .madara uchiha is a man from before the hidden leaf he is probably hundreds of years old madara was born before kakashi they can not be the same age because Kakashi is 27 Well as shown now tobi is not madara. However there is no way tobi could be obito cause at the time where the nine tails attacked kakashi was still young and tobi was way older when he fought minato. I dont get why people are not using their brains cause that is a proof that tobi is not obito.
Tobi is Madara Uchiha in Tobi's form!! Obito Uchiha is dead and completely unrelated besides the fact that he is an Uchiha too.
Tobi isn't Obito. He is Madara Uchiha
no it is rumered that Tobi is madara uchiha in obito's body but no pein is not obito
Obito is not Tobi. Madara Uchiha is Tobi. How many times must I tell you this, people?!
tobi(obito uchiha with Madara Uchiha soul )
Obito and Tobi are the same person in the Naruto series. Obito Uchiha assumed the alias "Tobi" when he joined the Akatsuki organization. Throughout the series, Obito uses the Tobi persona to conceal his true identity and motives.
Obito Uchiha was his brother.obito-tobi.......haha it makes some sense, i forgot about the uchiha clan
No, Madara does not die.... at all. Madara (aka Tobi) is immortal, so therefore he does not die. ;)
His true name is Madara Uchiha. This name was forgotten by many after Hashirama Senju defeated Madara Uchiha at Valley of the End.
Because Tobi is from First hokage generation and Obito was from Kakashi generation.
Tobi and Obito are not the same person. Tobi is Madara Uchiha. It was confirmed by himself. He will be unmasked later in the series.
Yes, Tobi is revealed to be Obito Uchiha in the manga series "Naruto." Obito takes on the persona of Tobi as part of his plan to manipulate events from behind the scenes.