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Since the use of "Jr." and "Sr." is usually to help distinguish between a father and son, both of whom are still living, the son can drop the "Jr." after the father dies, if he likes, or he can keep it. For example, Sammy Davis, Jr., kept the "Junior" for several years after his father died, but eventually used just "Sammy Davis" as his legal and professional name. The designation can also change with time and circumstance. Suppose Jim Johnson has a son whom he names Jim Johnson. The father might be, for example, Jim Johnson II or Jim Johnson, Sr., and the son would be Jim Johnson, III, but could also be called Jim Johnson, Jr. After Jim Johnson II dies, his son can call himself just Jim Johnson or can continue to call himslef Jim Johnson, Jr., but in either case he will always be Jim Johnson III. To further complicate matters, if there is a grandson named Jim Johnson, he will be Jim Johnson IV. When the grandfather dies, Jim Johnson III can call himself Jim Johnson, Sr., if he likes, and the grandson can be called Jim Johnson, Jr. It is largely a matter of person preference and what the family will tollerate.

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Does John Doe third become John Doe Junior when his senior grandfather dies?

Naming people "Sr." and "Jr." is a separate system from naming them "Second," "Third," "First," etc. Commonly, John Doe, Jr. can drop the "Jr." from his name after John Doe, Sr. dies, but he does not have to. For example, Sammy Davis, Jr., the famous black entertainer, continued to use "Jr." for many years after his father, Sammy Davis, Sr., died. He did, eventually, call himself simply, Sammy Davis. Naming people "I," "II," "III," etc. is a completely separate system and does not even require that III be the son of II. John Doe III could be the son of Jason Doe, and the nephew, younger cousin, or other relative of John Doe II, as long as both are recognized as being in the same family. The numbering does not change when one of them dies. John Doe IV, the son of John Doe III and the grandson of John Doe II, will always be John Doe IV, even after I, II and III have died. He may as a matter of convenience, choose to drop the number, or, if he has a son named John Doe V, he might choose to be John Doe, Sr., to his son's John Doe, Jr.


What comes after senior and junior in a family lineage?

Nothing comes after Junior when Senior and Junior are used in naming members of one family. The use of Second (II), Third (III), Fourth (IV), etc., is a completely different system. Joe, Sr., could be Joe I, Joe V, or Joe VIII or whatever number is appropriate. Junior and Senior are used only to distinguish between two living people. When Joe, Sr. dies, Joe, Jr. can become simply, Joe. Similarly if young Joe, Jr., dies, Joe, Sr. can become simply Joe.


When senior father dies does junior son become senior?

AnswerNo, because if you were talking about the deceased person, you may get confused, just the way you would if you were alive. I think when they get the junior or senior added to their name, it's permanent, except it's not written on their birth certificate.


How do you use the suffix I II III Jr Sr?

John Doe has a son also called John Doe. In these circumtances, the father is often called John Doe, Senior (Sr) and the son John Doe, Junior (Jr). If John Doe, Junior also has a son called John Doe the son might be called John Doe III.


If SR dies does JR still have to sign as JR or he can drop the JR?

He can keep or drop the JR, as he chooses. Many keep it for a while and drop it later. For example the entertainer, Sammy Davis, Jr., continued to use "JR" for several years after his father died, but was known simply as "Sammy Davis" during the last years of his life. On the other hand, when speaking of father and son historical figures of the same name, it is not unusual to use SR and JR decades or centuries after they have died, as that is often the easiest way of telling them apart. As a result, 2000 years after they lived, we still speak of Pliny the Elder and Pliny the Younger, which was the ancient Roman way of saying SR and JR in Latin.

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If there is a sr and jr what is the next child?

The third or, the III


Do you use the suffix of jr or sr for the widow of a deceased person?

Some people continue to use Jr after Sr has died, others do not. Numbering is a completely separate system and does not change when an earlier number dies. John James I is usually the father of John James II but could be an uncle or other older relative. At some point John James II could be John James, Sr to John James III as John James, Jr. Later, after John James II dies, John James III can be Sr to John James IV as Jr. And so forth.


What do you call Jr or Sr when it follows a last name?

When "Jr" or "Sr" follows a last name, it is called a suffix or a generational suffix. It is used to indicate that a person has the same name as their father or grandfather respectively.


Does John Doe third become John Doe Junior when his senior grandfather dies?

Naming people "Sr." and "Jr." is a separate system from naming them "Second," "Third," "First," etc. Commonly, John Doe, Jr. can drop the "Jr." from his name after John Doe, Sr. dies, but he does not have to. For example, Sammy Davis, Jr., the famous black entertainer, continued to use "Jr." for many years after his father, Sammy Davis, Sr., died. He did, eventually, call himself simply, Sammy Davis. Naming people "I," "II," "III," etc. is a completely separate system and does not even require that III be the son of II. John Doe III could be the son of Jason Doe, and the nephew, younger cousin, or other relative of John Doe II, as long as both are recognized as being in the same family. The numbering does not change when one of them dies. John Doe IV, the son of John Doe III and the grandson of John Doe II, will always be John Doe IV, even after I, II and III have died. He may as a matter of convenience, choose to drop the number, or, if he has a son named John Doe V, he might choose to be John Doe, Sr., to his son's John Doe, Jr.


When senior father dies does junior son become senior Even in legal documents?

No. Jim Jones, Jr., can stop using the "Jr.," if he wants, once Jim Jones, Sr., dies. He only becomes "Sr" if he has a son whom he names Jim Jones and who in turn uses the "Jr." suffix.


What does cadency name mean?

This is usually the last part of someone's name, where applicable; such as: II, III, Jr, Sr


What come after Jr?

== == == == * Senior (Sr.) Is the father and the son of that father is 'Junior' (Jr.) if named after his father. Example: Father's name is Paul Walker, Sr., then you would be Paul Walker, Jr. Nothing else comes after that. * The Second II if the Sr., is still living to show respect. If he is no longer living then it would be the III.


What if there is a Frank Sr. then a Frank Jr. then a son of Frank Jr. what is the son referrred to as?

Frank Jr. becomes Frank Sr. and the Frank formerly known as Frank Jr.'s son becomes Frank Jr. ... If that makes any sense. Alternatively if Frank Sr. was the first Frank ie Frank the first, then the answer is Frank III ie Frank the third. Same as Queen Elizabeth II.


Is a grandson of the same name as his father and grandfather named the 1st or the 3rd and why?

I found out on my own: when a grandson is born & is given the same name as his father who is ' Jr. ' & his grandfather is ' Sr. ', the baby becomes the ' III ' , the father becomes the ' II ' & the grandfather becomes the ' I ' . While the above may hold true is some cases, it is perfectly normal for the grandfather and father to maintain their "Sr/Jr" titles and for the son to be given the III title. My grandfather was Michael Sr. My father was Michael Jr. and my little brother was Michael III.


Where do we put suffix on name listing?

Suffixes like Jr., Sr., II, III, etc. are typically added after the last name when listing names. For example, John Smith Jr.


What comes after senior and junior in a family lineage?

Nothing comes after Junior when Senior and Junior are used in naming members of one family. The use of Second (II), Third (III), Fourth (IV), etc., is a completely different system. Joe, Sr., could be Joe I, Joe V, or Joe VIII or whatever number is appropriate. Junior and Senior are used only to distinguish between two living people. When Joe, Sr. dies, Joe, Jr. can become simply, Joe. Similarly if young Joe, Jr., dies, Joe, Sr. can become simply Joe.


What is the relationship between Old Hamlet and Hamlet?

Hamlet Sr (Old Hamlet) was the King of Denmark and Hamlet Jr's (Hamlet) father. Hamlet Sr dies at the beginning of the play and the story follows Hamlet Jr as the main character. Hope this helps, Have a great day.