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John Doe has a son also called John Doe. In these circumtances, the father is often called John Doe, Senior (Sr) and the son John Doe, Junior (Jr). If John Doe, Junior also has a son called John Doe the son might be called John Doe III.

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First, middle, and last name must be the same.

Michael John Smith has a son he names Michael John Smith. The son can be Michael John Smith, Jr., or Michael John Smith II. Regardless if he is called Jr. or II, if his son is also Michael John Smith, he will be III.

If Michael John Smith II has a son named Michael John Smith, that son would be III. If Michael John Smith I is no longer living, then Michael John Smith II chould call himself Michael John Smith, Sr, and his son Smith, Jr. If Jr (MJS III) has a son named MJS IV, and JMS, Sr, is no longer living, MJS III can change fro being Jr to being Sr and MJS IV can be called Jr.

The cardinal numbering, and the use of Jr/Sr, may also be used in grandfather-grandson and uncle-nephew relationships. For example:

Michael John Smith has a son he names Robert Phillip Smith. Robert has a son he names Michael John Smith II after his grandfather.

Michael John Smith has two sons, one named Robert Philip Smith, the other James Richard Smith. Robert Philip Smith has a son he names James Richard Smith II after his uncle.

The III designation would be used if naming a boy after any of the above IIs.

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  • Junior always comes at the end because it is the same name as the father. Example: John A. Doe, Jr.
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Jr = Junior
Sr = Senior

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just like Jr.(eg. Martin Luther King Jr.)

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When did suffix JR come into use?

Short form for Junior


Does John Doe third become John Doe Junior when his senior grandfather dies?

Naming people "Sr." and "Jr." is a separate system from naming them "Second," "Third," "First," etc. Commonly, John Doe, Jr. can drop the "Jr." from his name after John Doe, Sr. dies, but he does not have to. For example, Sammy Davis, Jr., the famous black entertainer, continued to use "Jr." for many years after his father, Sammy Davis, Sr., died. He did, eventually, call himself simply, Sammy Davis. Naming people "I," "II," "III," etc. is a completely separate system and does not even require that III be the son of II. John Doe III could be the son of Jason Doe, and the nephew, younger cousin, or other relative of John Doe II, as long as both are recognized as being in the same family. The numbering does not change when one of them dies. John Doe IV, the son of John Doe III and the grandson of John Doe II, will always be John Doe IV, even after I, II and III have died. He may as a matter of convenience, choose to drop the number, or, if he has a son named John Doe V, he might choose to be John Doe, Sr., to his son's John Doe, Jr.


When Jr is included in a name such as Brown Jr is it a suffix?

A suffix is a part of a larger word; for example, in the word helpless, "less" is a suffix. Jr. is just part of the name, not a suffix, since it is not attached to any other word. However, names can have prefixes or suffixes. For example, John McCain, the "Mc" is a prefix, attached to the word. In Icelandic, you can have names such as "Siggurdsdottir" in which "dottir" is a suffix (meaning, the daughter of).


If a junior has a son what does senior become?

If Jason James, Jr., has a son named Jason James, and Jason James, Sr. is still living, the grandfather can continue to use the suffix, "senior." The grandson, cannot be called "junior" because his father still has that suffix, but the grandson may be called Jason James III, if the grandfather was the first in the family to be called Jason James.


What does the III mean in someones name?

Normally the III means that "John Doe III's" father and grandfather are named (grandfather) "John Doe Sr." and (father) is named "John Doe Jr.". Which would change their names to "John Doe I" and "John Doe II" when "John Doe III" is named. The naming can also skip a generation or even a nephew or grandnephew can continue the name. I have seen the use of the roman numeral system with female names also.