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The phrase its assumed you refer to (but is not n the original question) is about initially stave one when the two gentlemen approach scrooge for charitable donation to help the poor at the festive many who are starving. Scrooges response was "Are there no prisons?, Gentlemen reply "yes sir many prisons", Scrooge then asks are there no work houses and the treadmill is that fully employed?", again the gentleman reply "yes sir there are work houses and a trad mill but many would rather die than go to these places". Scrooges retort was, "then they better had and reduce the surplus population" .

In stave three the Ghost of Christmas Present produces two malnourished poorly dressed children from beneath his robe, Scrooge asks whose child are these and seeing there poor condition asks "have they no one, no resource? (meaning do they not have someone to care for them of something to eat or drink) The ghost replies they are of mans making the boy is ignorance the girl is want , beware of both but more so the boy. The ghost then repeated Scrooges statement to the two gentlemen from stave one "Are there no prisons, are there no work houses?"

This was to be the wake up call for Scrooges whose ignorance of the real effects of the world around him were going unnoticed

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