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I can't remember that Ralph ever mentioned any "goals." However during the meeting in chapter two Ralph does say "We want to have fun. And we want to be rescued." A couple of paragraphs later he says, "There's another thing. We can help then to find us.... we must make a fire." So I guess those are the two goals, to light a signal fire, keep it going, and get rescued.

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