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Aaliyah wasn't buried in a Batesville casket, but in one of the last copper deposit caskets made by the former National Casket Company of Boston. The type designation of her silver plated casket was # 20761, a double lid model with lavish ornamental corners and a hand tufted premium velvet interior.

Unlike standard copper caskets, which are welded from 32 oz or 48 oz (ounces per square foot) sheets of wrought copper (resulting in an empty weight between 200 and 300 lbs), copper deposit casket are made in a time consuming process by which copper molecules are deposited on a casket form. The famous National copper deposit caskets had no joints or welding seams nor did the attachments of the handles penetrate the casket walls. Copper deposit caskets have unusually thick walls of 1/8" (3 mm) resulting in a weight between 600 and 800 lbs. The funeral pictures show that at least eight pall bearers were needed to carry Aaliyah's casket. In the 1970s, the price of copper deposit caskets, which are no longer manufactured in the US, was about 10 to 12 times that of a standard 32 oz copper casket. The optional silver plating of the exterior added around 25 % to the basic price of the luxury casket. Other celebrities buried in National copper deposit caskets (of different designs) were for example President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Elvis Presley, and the newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst .

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What company manufactured Aaliyah's casket?

Batesville The answer "Batesville" needs correction: Aaliyah was buried in one of the last seamless solid copper deposit caskets (units made from electrolytically deposited copper instead of welded sheets of wrought copper) manufactured by the (former) National Casket Co. of Boston. This was a very exclusive casket, extremely heavy (over 600 lbs - two to three times the weight of a standard sheet copper casket) and extraordinarily expensive - ten to twelve times as much as a standard copper sheet casket. Aaliya's casket cost even an extra 20% to 25% more than a "simple" copper deposit casket because it had a silver plated exterior. Her ornamental National No. 20761 model was a double lid casket featuring an undivided outer top and an inner divided inner lid. The interior was of hand tufted velvet.


Did Aaliyah have her casket open?

I highly doubt it due to severity of the injuries her and her entourage received from the plane crashing. The coroner will have a autopsy done and if the morgution declares it orange then neither the family or the public will be allowed to view the body. Only people such as the parents can petition to view the body and even then the petition can be denied. From my understanding Aaliyah was burned extremely badly and her body was contorted so i doubt very strongly that the funeral was open casket. They had pictures of her everywhere and to the left of the casket but it was closed the entire time. i think about Aaliyah,you 're right after a crash ,the body is severely injuried ,a crash car or a crash plane this is the same result.it was better that everybody and her family remember Aaliyah in a good record,alive,with joy.i saw my mother dead and she was different,the body change with the death.to remember Aaliyah alive was a good choice for her relatives.the death was so unwaited and tragical that everybody were shocked!!!!! Aaliyah was very loved and will always be remembered no because she was burned so badly her family didn't want it open There might be also a "yes" a n d "no" answer because of the type of casket used in Aaliya's funeral. She had one of the last seamless solid copper deposit caskets (units made from electrolytically deposited copper instead of welded sheets of copper) manufactured by the former National Casket Co. of Boston, Mass. This was a very exclusive casket, extremely heavy (around 800 lbs) and extraordinarily expensive - topped only by cast bronze units. This type of casket was also used for the funerals of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and for Elvis Presley (though in their cases round corner designs had been chosen instead of the more female looking urn-shaped design used in her case). Aaliya's casket had even a silver plated finish adding to the high price. In addition to that, it was a double lid casket: under the undivided outer top there was a divided inner lid. (There is a picture of such an opened copper deposit casket on Flickr.) This would have made it possible to open the outer lid during the funeral ceremony while keeping the inner lid closed. This is sometimes done in cases of mutilated bodies: it allows the mourners to place flowers and last gifts into the casket of the deceased while being spared seeing the mutilated face. If this was the case with Aaliyah's funeral, it would have been correct to speak of a closed casket as well as of an open casket.


Was Michael Jackson's Promethean bronze casket the most expensive casket available?

Almost. Michael Jackson's "Batesville Promethean" casket, made of extra thick (48 oz) sheets of wrought bronze and equipped with gold plated handles, is currently (2014) offered at prices between $ 22.000 and 48.000; the Jackson family is said to have paid 25.000 for it in 2009. But the most expensive casket available would have been York's cast bronze "Pharaoh Sarcophagus", currently offered at priced between $ 160.00 and 270.000. Compared with the price of this casket, Michael Jackson was buried in a coffin with but a rather "modest" price. With some luck, Michael Jackson might have been buried in one of the last National seamless copper deposit caskets available. These caskets, which were used for the burial of celebrities like Elvis Presley and Aaliyah, were manufactured only until the 1970s and cost about 12 times as much as the lowest priced copper caskets made of sheet metal, or about one third of a cast bronze casket. This would mean a current price of an estimated $ 35.000 to 55.000. Another more expensive choice might have been the "Monarch Elite" model offered by The Gold Casket: the solid cherry casket gilded with 24 karat gold sells around $ 40.000. There might have been other more expensive casket available, but the comparison of casket prices is difficult because on the one hand the exact price which was paid for Michael Jackson's casket is unknown (probably 25.000) and on the other hand the Recommended Manufacturer's Retail Prices (RMRP) differ often from the prices charged by funeral homes, and these prices differ again considerably from the prices in Internet casket discount shops. Thus there is a big price variation for one and the same casket. At their maximum requested price, the following caskets might have been more expensive than Michael Jackson's "Promethean": - The "Marquis", a thermo-deposited bronze casket made by York, available at prices between $ 25.000 and 38.000. - Batesville's "Marsellus Masterpiece" mahogany luxury casket , which is offered at prices between 16.000 and 40.000 $. In spite of these alternatives, there can be no doubt that due to its striking gold polish finish making the casket seem to be made of pure gold, Michael Jackson's "Promethean" casket created the public impression that he was buried in the most expensive casket available.


What kind of casket was William Randolph Hearst buried in?

When the famous newspaper magnate died in 1951, he was buried in one of the most prestigious luxury caskets available - a seamless copper deposit casket manufactured by the National casket company of Boston, Mass. The casket, a round corner design with the type series designation No. 21200, was largely the same as that which had been used for the funeral of President Franklin D. Roosevelt a few years before. With walls of a thickness of 1/8 of an inch (about 3 mm) and a triple lid - an undivided outer lid, split inner panels and a full oval plate glass lid over the body of the deceased - the empty casket had a weight of some 700 lbs. The interior of the casket consisted of white hand tufted velvet. Hearst's casket was one of the most expensive ones available at that time because caskets made of electrolytically deposited copper cost up to a dozen times the price of caskets made of 32 oz sheets of wrought copper. Black & White photos (available on the Internet) taken at the Hearst funeral seem to indicate that his casket had a silver plated finish. This would have increased the high price of the casket for another 20%. For the Hearst family, price was of course no consideration.


Why was Aaliyah important?

Aaliyah was / is important because she was one of the first female singers to actually introduce what some call "Hip - Hop & B." When she first came out in 1994, she was a protege'e of music crooner R Kelly and with his help as a mentor she went into the studio and introduced her first album to the world (Age Ain't Nothing But A Number).She was instantly accepted by music critics and heavy hitters in the game alike and critics praised Aaliyah for having a sweet, sultry voice and mature lyrics (considering the fact she was only 15 at the time of her debut album's release and the majority of her album, if not all was written by R Kelly himself).Her style was dubbed "street but sweet" and you can see a lot of her style; The baggy clothes, with a hint of femininity in female artists today such as: Ciara, Cassie and even Rihanna.Her music was always 2 steps ahead of what other female artists, or singers in generals were for that era. When she split ways with R Kelly in 1995 after allegations of a secret marriage between the two, she hooked up with Timbaland and Missy Elliot who were then unknown.She's actually the one who helped them (Missy and Timbaland) become as famous as they did, because they hadn't even been heard of at the time of Aaliyah's switch back into the studios for her 2nd album (One In A Million).After she released her One In A Million album, Timbaland and Missy's career took off and she introduced an urban / neo-soul sound that was not common in the industry.If it wasn't for her sound and style of singing and image, a lot of female artists; Cassie, Ciara, Rihanna, Keri Hilson.. they wouldn't be at the stand points they are now.Aaliyah sold 32 million albums world wide and that number according to Vibe magazine in 2009 is still growing.At just 15 her 1st studio album was certified Gold by the RIAA and she released 3 smash hits: Back and Forth, At Your Best (You Are Love) which was originally sang and recorded by The Isley Brothers in the '70s and Age Ain't Nothing But A Number which the single itself went Platinum.To sum it all up.. She is responsible for the fame and success that Missy Elliot and Timbaland have been accustomed to since the 90's.She is responsible for starting the "Feminine / tomboy" image that you can see more or less in Ciara's videos.She helped Tommy Hilfiger launch his already popular clothing line by becoming a model for him.She helped 1998's Dr Dolittle movie soundtrack go gold with just her hit "Are You That Somebody" which turned into a smash hit for her benefit and was heavily played on radio stations from 1998 - 1999.She ran in Revlon's Marathon for women with breast cancer from 1997 up until her death in 2001.She was the first female to be able to sing in soprano over a heavy hip hop oriented beat via "Hot Like Fire, One In A Million, If Your Girl Only Knew, etc"Since her death her Myspace fan page is STILL Number 1 in the country.On December 18, 2009 XXL and Vibe magazine stated that all 3 of Aaliyah's albums (Age Ain't 1994, One In A Million 1997, Aaliyah, 2001) have past Ciara's "Fantasy Ride" and Beyonce's then released B-Day album by 1.2 million units purchased.On January 21, 2010 Vibe posted on their blog site that most of her songs from her career are the most downloaded for a female singer who is deceased.She is still played on radio stations today, even bypassing Ciara, Beyonce and Rihanna with radio plays for her songs "Are You That Somebody, One In A Million, Try Again, We Need A Resolution"Missy Elliot dedicated her award to Aaliyah at the 2010 BET Awards.Justin Timberlake dedicated his entire "Future Sex / Love" tour to Aaliyah showing clips of her from interviews, home movies and pictures of her when she was younger during half of his performances.Jay-Z dedicated one of his live performances to Aaliyah, 2pac, BIG and Jam Master Jay who passed in 2002.Mya dedicated her song "After The Rain" to Aaliyah and Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes from famed TLC group who passed away 8 months to the date of Aaliyah in 2002.Brandy praised Aaliyah at a 1990's or 2000 Soul Train Music Awards eventRihanna praised Aaliyah on her rendition of BET Top 25 Countdown and played the music video for Aaliyah's "Are You That Somebody" on the show.Ciara praised Aaliyah on numerous occasions and played "Are you That Somebody" on her BET Top 25 CountdownNe-Yo also praised Aaliyah and showed the "Are you That Somebody" videoKeyshia Cole praised Aaliyah and played her "Back In One Piece, Try Again and The One I Gave My Heart To" video collection on her Top 25 BET Countdown specialJadakiss made reference to Aaliyah in his song Why?.. "Why Aaliyah have to take that flight?"Bizzy Bone from Bone Thugs N Harmony said Aaliyah's name towards the end of his song Muddy Waters.Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes praised Aaliyah on numerous accounts before her own untimely death on April 25, 2002.Static Major (from R&B group Playa) made an entire song dedicated to Aaliyah whom he dated from 1998-1999 entitled "Aaliyah, Aaliyah"Boyz II Men also made a song dedicated to Aaliyah's memory entitled "Think of Aaliyah"Her brother Rashad did a rendition of her song One In A Million and added his own verses in and entitled it "One In A Billion"Lil Wayne used the first verse of Aaliyah's song I Don't Wanna in a song featuring Pleasure P called "Rock Bottom"Static Major also wrote a song for Aaliyah before his death in 2007 entitled "For A Long Time"Missy Elliot, Tweet and Ginuwine made a tribute song and video for Aaliyah entitled "Take Away"

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What company manufactured Aaliyah's casket?

Batesville The answer "Batesville" needs correction: Aaliyah was buried in one of the last seamless solid copper deposit caskets (units made from electrolytically deposited copper instead of welded sheets of wrought copper) manufactured by the (former) National Casket Co. of Boston. This was a very exclusive casket, extremely heavy (over 600 lbs - two to three times the weight of a standard sheet copper casket) and extraordinarily expensive - ten to twelve times as much as a standard copper sheet casket. Aaliya's casket cost even an extra 20% to 25% more than a "simple" copper deposit casket because it had a silver plated exterior. Her ornamental National No. 20761 model was a double lid casket featuring an undivided outer top and an inner divided inner lid. The interior was of hand tufted velvet.


Who makes stainless steel burial caskets?

it is not used as a primary material for shell construction by any major manufacturer other than the Aurora Casket Company of Aurora, Illinois. The Batesville Casket Company also produces stainless steel caskets as well.


When did sealed caskets become normal in America?

Probably some years after the Second World War. Before that, usually rather expensive glass sealer caskets were used if a "protective" casket was requested. After the war, the Batesville Casket Company pioneered the use of reasonably priced gasket sealer caskets.


Did Aaliyah have her casket open?

I highly doubt it due to severity of the injuries her and her entourage received from the plane crashing. The coroner will have a autopsy done and if the morgution declares it orange then neither the family or the public will be allowed to view the body. Only people such as the parents can petition to view the body and even then the petition can be denied. From my understanding Aaliyah was burned extremely badly and her body was contorted so i doubt very strongly that the funeral was open casket. They had pictures of her everywhere and to the left of the casket but it was closed the entire time. i think about Aaliyah,you 're right after a crash ,the body is severely injuried ,a crash car or a crash plane this is the same result.it was better that everybody and her family remember Aaliyah in a good record,alive,with joy.i saw my mother dead and she was different,the body change with the death.to remember Aaliyah alive was a good choice for her relatives.the death was so unwaited and tragical that everybody were shocked!!!!! Aaliyah was very loved and will always be remembered no because she was burned so badly her family didn't want it open There might be also a "yes" a n d "no" answer because of the type of casket used in Aaliya's funeral. She had one of the last seamless solid copper deposit caskets (units made from electrolytically deposited copper instead of welded sheets of copper) manufactured by the former National Casket Co. of Boston, Mass. This was a very exclusive casket, extremely heavy (around 800 lbs) and extraordinarily expensive - topped only by cast bronze units. This type of casket was also used for the funerals of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and for Elvis Presley (though in their cases round corner designs had been chosen instead of the more female looking urn-shaped design used in her case). Aaliya's casket had even a silver plated finish adding to the high price. In addition to that, it was a double lid casket: under the undivided outer top there was a divided inner lid. (There is a picture of such an opened copper deposit casket on Flickr.) This would have made it possible to open the outer lid during the funeral ceremony while keeping the inner lid closed. This is sometimes done in cases of mutilated bodies: it allows the mourners to place flowers and last gifts into the casket of the deceased while being spared seeing the mutilated face. If this was the case with Aaliyah's funeral, it would have been correct to speak of a closed casket as well as of an open casket.


Is it still possible to buy caskets of the same type John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe were buried in?

Although the manufacturers of the original caskets of President Kennedy and of Marilyn Monroe are out of business, both designs - with minor changes - are still in production and can be bought either directly or through funeral homes, provided you are willing and able to spend that much money for one of these luxury caskets. The Kennedy part of the question is somewhat more difficult to be answered because for the late President two different caskets had been used. For the transport from Dallas to Washington, DC it was a bronze casket manufactured by the (former) Elgin Casket Company of Elgin, Ill. After this casket had been damaged during the loading / unloading process, it was replaced by a mahogany casket which was used for the burial. President Kennedy's Elgin casket had been a double lid "Handley" model with a "Britannia" (that is: partially brushed) finish and an amber (reddish) transparent tint. A few years after President Kennedy's death, the Elgin Company changed the flaring round corner design of the "Handley" somewhat by giving it a more pronounced urn shape. After Elgin had been bought by the renown mattress producer Simmons in 1968, the "Handley" model was replaced by the Winchester model, which differed from its predecessor only by some embossed ornaments. The casket is manufactured nowadays as "Winchester Twin Lock Amber Britannia" by VerPlank Enterprises of Iron City, TN. The design is shown in the VerPlank Online casket catalog. President Kennedy's second coffin, a mahogany unit, was a very plain round corner design manufactured by the Marsellus Casket Company of Syracuse, NY under the type designation 710. In 1997, the Marsellus family sold the company to SCI (Service Corporation International) of Houston, which in 2003 decided to close down the Marsellus factory. The brand name Marsellus and several of the company's most famous designs - among them the "Seven-Ten" - were bought by the Batesville Casket Company of Hillenbrand Industries. Since then, Batesville has manufactured the "Kennedy casket" under the designation (Marsellus) "President". The Batesville model looks still the same as the Marsellus 710. The main difference consist in the fact that Batesville does no longer offer an almost unlimited choice of outer (casket top / handles / finishes) and inner (textile material and colors of the lining) custom designs. Nowadays, the "President" is available only in a perfection half couch style (split lid) and in a full couch style (undivided lid), but, for example, not with a "hinged cap" top as in the original Kennedy casket. Also, an inner bronze or copper liner is no longer available. It seems that Batesville has strictly limited the choice of available varieties of the "President" design in order to keep the (nevertheless still high) price of the casket within reasonable bounds. The successor models to both "Kennedy caskets" - the VerPlank "Winchester" and the Batesville "President" can be bought both through funeral directors and through several Online casket shops. Marilyn Monroe was buried in a luxury coffin which has been called the "Cadillac of caskets": a silver finished 15 ga / 48 oz (that is: extra strong and heavy) "Masterpiece" bronze casket with a hand tufted champagne colored velvet, satin and silk interior manufactured by the (former) Belmont Casket Company of Columbus, Ohio. The casket was equipped with a hermetically sealing double lid (without inner glass panel). Although the Belmont factory closed down in 1979, the "Masterpiece" design is still in production. It is manufactured nowadays under the same name by VerPlank Enterprises of Tennessee, although the original design underwent a few minor changes: while the beading ornaments of the "Monroe casket" still exist, the swing bar handles look slightly different now. Interestingly however, VerPlank still offers the Masterpiece in 48oz bronze and with a silver finished exterior, which makes the casket a kind of replica of the Monroe casket. Pictures of the "Silver Twin Seal Masterpiece" are shown in the VerPlank Online casket catalog.


Was Michael Jackson's Promethean bronze casket the most expensive casket available?

Almost. Michael Jackson's "Batesville Promethean" casket, made of extra thick (48 oz) sheets of wrought bronze and equipped with gold plated handles, is currently (2014) offered at prices between $ 22.000 and 48.000; the Jackson family is said to have paid 25.000 for it in 2009. But the most expensive casket available would have been York's cast bronze "Pharaoh Sarcophagus", currently offered at priced between $ 160.00 and 270.000. Compared with the price of this casket, Michael Jackson was buried in a coffin with but a rather "modest" price. With some luck, Michael Jackson might have been buried in one of the last National seamless copper deposit caskets available. These caskets, which were used for the burial of celebrities like Elvis Presley and Aaliyah, were manufactured only until the 1970s and cost about 12 times as much as the lowest priced copper caskets made of sheet metal, or about one third of a cast bronze casket. This would mean a current price of an estimated $ 35.000 to 55.000. Another more expensive choice might have been the "Monarch Elite" model offered by The Gold Casket: the solid cherry casket gilded with 24 karat gold sells around $ 40.000. There might have been other more expensive casket available, but the comparison of casket prices is difficult because on the one hand the exact price which was paid for Michael Jackson's casket is unknown (probably 25.000) and on the other hand the Recommended Manufacturer's Retail Prices (RMRP) differ often from the prices charged by funeral homes, and these prices differ again considerably from the prices in Internet casket discount shops. Thus there is a big price variation for one and the same casket. At their maximum requested price, the following caskets might have been more expensive than Michael Jackson's "Promethean": - The "Marquis", a thermo-deposited bronze casket made by York, available at prices between $ 25.000 and 38.000. - Batesville's "Marsellus Masterpiece" mahogany luxury casket , which is offered at prices between 16.000 and 40.000 $. In spite of these alternatives, there can be no doubt that due to its striking gold polish finish making the casket seem to be made of pure gold, Michael Jackson's "Promethean" casket created the public impression that he was buried in the most expensive casket available.


What casket was used for Aaliyah?

Aaliyah Haughton was buried in one of the last copper deposit models manufactured by the former National casket company of Boston. The type designation was # 20761, a double lid model with lavish ornamental corners, a hand tufted premium velvet interior and a silver plated exterior. Unlike standard copper caskets which are welded from 32 oz or 48 oz (ounces per square foot) sheets of wrought copper (resulting in an empty weight between 200 and 300 lbs), copper deposit casket are made in a time consuming process by which copper molecules are deposited on a casket form. The famous National copper deposit caskets had no joints or welding seams nor did the attachments of the handles penetrate the casket walls. Copper deposit caskets have unusually thick walls of 1/8" (3 mm) resulting in a weight between 600 and 800 lbs empty. The funeral pictures show that at least eight pall bearers were needed to carry Aaliyah's casket. In the 1970s, the price of copper deposit caskets, which are no longer manufactured in the US, was about 10 to 12 times that of a standard 32 oz sheet copper casket. The optional silver plating of the exterior added around 25 % to the basic price of the luxury casket. Other celebrities buried in National copper deposit caskets (of somewhat different design) were for example President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Elvis Presley and the newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst.


When and where was Aaliyah flying to when the accident happened?

The accident , which killed Aaliyah and others ( there was one survivor) occured in the Bahamas. The craft involved was a Cessna 420 an enlarged version of the very successful ( used in modified form by Oil prospectors) model 3l0.


What is the name of the Cloth used to cover a casket?

a pall (or casket pall / funeral pall)


What determines the price of a burial casket?

Casket costs vary according to the type of material the casket is made of, the quality of the construction, and the type of interior used.


What is the difference between Marsellus Masterpiece and a Marsellus 710 state funeral casket?

The Marsellus "Masterpiece" was the top of the line model of the former Marsellus hardwood casket company of Syracuse, NY, while the Marsellus 710 - informally called the "Kennedy casket", "America's presidential casket" or "the state casket" - was the third most expensive casket design of the company. Since the closing of the famous Marsellus factory in 2003, both designs have been produced by the Batesville casket company. With regard to its design, the "Masterpiece" is a rather bulky and somewhat awkwardly baroque looking casket, which tries to show every single dollar it costs. The empty weight of the casket, which is made of solid 2" and 3" planks of select grade ribbon grained African mahogany is around 450 lbs. The amount of mahogany (coming from trees which are some 500 years old) used in one "Masterpiece" has an equivalent of approximately 14,000 feet of veneer - a fact which increasingly met the criticism of environmentalists who pointed to the destruction of the tropical rain forest. The production time of a "Masterpiece" casket takes almost 8 month. Just the assembly of the component parts with copper nails and brass screws takes one experienced craftsman an entire 40 hour work week and the finishing operation lasts up to 30 days while five layers of sealer and lacquer are applied. The hand rubbing of a high gloss finished "Masterpiece" takes more than seven hours. An original "Masterpiece" - one of the last ones manufactured at the Marsellus plant in Syracuse - was chosen for the burial of President Reagan. Currently (in 2014), the Batesville (Marsellus) "Masterpiece" has a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $ 38,000, but it is offered by Online casket retailers at prices starting from 16,000 (plus some 2,000 for an optional carved top). The original Marsellus "Masterpiece" was available with a 250 lbs heavy hermetically sealed heavy inner bronze liner with a full length oval glass top; the liner raised the price of the casket by another 25%. Unlike the "Masterpiece", the model # 710 has a plain and unpretentious looking design of timeless simplicity, representing the understatement style of the Eastern elite. Nevertheless it is an expensive luxury casket made from solid 1-1/4" and 2-1/2" planks of African mahogany, which results in an empty weight around 260 lbs. The casket has heavily rounded corners and all wooden swing bar handles with bronze tips and lugs. Marsellus claimed that the amount of mahogany used in each 710 model was about 140 board feet - an equivalent of almost 3.700 square feet of veneer, enough for some 200 dining tables. The successor to the original Marsellus 710, which is manufactured by the Batesville company nowadays under the new name (Marsellus) "President" has a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $ 13,000 (without a carved lid), but is offered by Online retailers already at prices starting from "just" 6,000. The original Marsellus "Seven Ten" was chosen for the burial of several American presidents (Kennedy, Ford, Nixon, and probably also for Hoover). Because of that, it has become something like the unofficial "presidential casket" in the US.


If the us flag is used to cover a casket at a funeral can the flag be lowered into the grave?

if the U.S. flag is used to cover a casket at a funeral can the flag be lowered into the grave?