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Are the Navy Seals or Green Berets a more elite group in your opinion?
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∙ 12y ago
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All the special operations forces of America are tough. Whether Green Beret,Pararescuemen, Combat Controller, Marine Recon, Army Ranger, or Navy SEALS. But to answer your question, the fact of the matter, is no.
Navy SEALs are indeed tough. But of the U.S. special operations forces, the toughest, or force with the hardest training is U.S. Air Force Pararescue. Pararescuemen are the guys that save the SEALs when therye in trouble.
HOPE I HELPED!
Actually, no, Navy SEALS do not use Air Force Pararescue troops to "save" them. The Navy SEALS use the SWCC teams that they work with within the Navy. Also the 90% dropout rate for PJs include, DOR's along with failures to pass the PSAT. 70% is only the DOR rate of the Navy SEALS BUD/S training.
yes he's right, pj dont help navy seals, swccs are the navy seals best friends and get them out of trouble if the run into it.
NAVY SEALS ARE THE MOST ELITE TRAINED FORCES IN THE U.S MILITARY, more elite than U.S. Air Force Pararescue
Navy Seals do not use Force Pararescue troops to save them them lol
Navy seals work along side The British S.B.S and British S.A.S. Like in recent news where S.A.S took out 50 top Taliban commanders,the attacks,tactics,training was all done and prepared by the S.A.S. Navy seals work under and along side the S.A.S and S.B.S. Navy seals cross train with the S.B.S as there the same thing just diffrent names,except S.B.S was around almost 30yrs before seals were even born. hence why S.B.S e.t.c lead the way as ther have alot more experience.
Navy Seals get some tough training but for the most part they don't have a lot of time in the military or actual experience. Most Navy Seal teams sit around on deployments and don't get used much. The navy is too afraid of losing a sailor they put alot of money into. The attrition rate for a navy seal is around 70 percent. The attrition rate for pararescue is close to 90 percent and that doesn't include the PAST. The PAST is like the test you take to become a seal before BUDS. Special forces attrition is around 80 to 85 percent. Marine force recon attrition is about 60 percent. But, Navy seals and pararescue are typically younger and don't have alot of military experience. Special forces students are typically seasoned soldiers. They are typically in their 30's and more mature. The average time in service for a special forces soldier in the army is around 10 years. Also, in actual conflicts the army and marines are the ones that get hands on experience. Army special forces soldiers are gone all the time, sometimes 10 months out of the year. A navy seal would be lucky to be deployed longer than several months out of a year. I also know most pararescueman will lap a seal in a pool or a track.
Pararescuemen do save SEALs, you don't have a clue. In March of 2002, a team of SEALs were inserted into Shahi-Kot Valley (Afghanistan) to provide observation on the peak of Takur Ghar. An MH-47 Chinook called Razor 03 landed in the SEALs LZ in order to pick up the SEALs, but it was hit by an RPG. As it took off, Petty Officer First Class Neil C. Roberts fell out the back of the open ramp. Razor 03 couldn't help him because the chopper was damaged. It crash-landed 4 miles away. Razor 04, another Chinook, attempted to help Roberts, but the team came under fire. Two SEALs, and an Air Force CCT (named John A. Chapman) were killed. The team requested a Quick Reaction Force, which consisted of 19 Rangers, an Air Force TACP, and a three man Special Tactics Unit. They deployed in Razor 01 and Razor 02. As they exited the aircraft, several men were killed. After a fierce firefight, in short, a PJ named SrA Jason Cunningham was killed PERFORMING MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR RANGERS AND NAVY SEALS. He was former Navy and passed the SEAL physical test, but didn't want that job and crossed into the Air Force to go the PJ route. You talk like your SEALS are so elite (which they are to some extent), you say that they don't need any PJ's saving their necks, but they had to call in a Ranger force, and PJ's to help their SEAL friend... Hmmm, if I was a "high and mighty" SEAL why would I need the Army Rangers to help me (besides the need for firepower, even then, there were only 19 of them)? I'd at least want somebody CSAR oriented to have my back! Also, I know two men who were former SEALs that cross trained to become PJ's. One said the Pararescue route is MUCH TOUGHER but he passed, and the other guy washed out, his biggest problem being the water confidence... As a former SEAL!
Children children please... calm down. You can not really argue whether the Navy SEALs are better and the Airforce Pararescue (Pjs) because their respective purposes and objectives are completely different.
Navy SEALs are traded in direct combat, they go out and fight some serious enemies who standard forces could not take on
Airforce PJs are essentially the paramedics of the special forces (Kinda like your 911 EMS but on steroids). They don't go out on missions specifically to go fight bad guys, they go out to save injured American or Allied forces. This includes anything from a simple medivac (A unit goes to the location of the injured, extracts him/her, treats them and transports them to a hospital) to holding the grounds of an American (or allied) unit until that unit can get to safety.
SEALs are the best fighters
PJs are the best rescuers
Understand the difference now?
AS TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION: Because all the special forces have different duties that all vary slightly or greatly from each other, you can not really say that one is superior to the other. It is only ones upmost personal opinion as to whether the training of a particular special forces is harder/more dangerous than another, as that is really the only grounds you can really compare different special forces.
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∙ 9y ago
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∙ 12y agoNot opinion there is a ranking system used.
Special Operations Forces Tier System:
Tier One: ST6, Delta, SAS
Tier Two: Seals, Berets
The big difference being Tier one are "black" ops. Tier two are "grey" ops.
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The tier system refers to SOF capabilities and can also be applied to special forces counterparts in any nation who may or may not have the same skill set/skill level, but who do occupy the same niche.
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∙ 12y agoThe following entries are opinion-based, due to the question being opinion-based:
Generally, most Military experts and books say the British S.A.S & S.B.S are the best special forces in the world. It makes sence realy as the British S.A.S & S.B.S are the most copied Military in the world copied by 27 diffrent countries across the world, the majority of other special forces in the world are based and were first trained by the British S.A.S. British S.A.S are also the worlds first special forces.
They train in every aspect of warfare in every terrain & condition,there training is still hailed as the toughest longest training on earth with the highest drop out rate of any Military,every 1000 candidates that get selected for selection only 2-4 will make the grade. To make selection to try out for the S.A.S you cannot volunteer like the majority of other regiments,you have to be British and served atleast 3years in some form of military regiment, i.e a large portion are already Senior Royal Marines,adding credit to the theory of the S.A.S selection being tough,if only 2-4 already senior soldiers make it past the selection phase. For the small minority that make the grade and pass selection there nightmare is only just starting as its on to many years of hard trainning,being tortured,and even one of the very few regiments to use live ammunition during training.
With 27 diffrent countries copying and basing there military on the S.A.S, the S.A.S also helps train the poorest of these countries and cross trains with the richest,giving the S.A.S an advantage over other militarys as they are teaching and learning for/from 27 diffrent countries meaning they soak up more knowledge than anyother military from around the world. Also the fact that the S.A.S & S.B.S are made up of already senior soldiers from other regiments, i.e some could of previously been a Royal Marine,some could of been a senior member of the Air Force,some could of been a senior member of the Navy e.t.c e.t.c, this makes the S.A.S & S.B.S very vercatile adding experts and there skills from all forms of military into one group then making them S.A.S & S.B.S special forces to boot.
yup, they are practically invincible
nope they are not, the special forces are so tough that if you a break a rib of a soldier from the special forces the guy will stand straight up like nothing happened. the navy seals fall down when they get a broken rib.
i hope did not say anything bad... my grandpa charged on death island, Iwo Jima
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my grandpa did to! i have come to a conclusion that the S.A.S, Navy Seals, or Special Forces are not. The answer is..............Scottish Commandos.
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∙ 12y agoSpecial Operations Forces Tier System:
Tier One: ST6, Delta, SAS
Tier Two: Seals, Berets
The big difference being Tier one are "black" ops. Tier two are "grey" ops.
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The tier system refers to SOF capabilities and can also be applied to special forces counterparts in any nation who may or may not have the same skill set/skill level, but who do occupy the same niche.
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∙ 11y agoNo not regular SEAL Teams. The 2 best US Special Operations units are Delta Force and SEAL Team 6(DEVGRU) they are the US`s only 2 Tier 1 Special Operations Force.
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What is the best defense of the military - green berets or navy seals?
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Elite antiguerilla military units expanded by Kennedy as part of his doctrine of flexible response?
Special Forces (Green Berets)
Does the army have special forces?
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Are the army the most elite unit in us armed forces?
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Are the green berets in delta force?
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Navy seals
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The Navy SEALs
Give you example sentence using the word elite?
Navy SEALS are an elite fighting force.
Are green berets the best special forces unit?
They are the only official US Army Special Forces unit; they are called SF men for short. Any other such men or units are also categorized as "special operations units" but that is simply a catch all phrase to avoid using a lot of confusing terms. "Special forces" is used generically in other countries, but in the US, it specifically means only the Green Berets.Now, the best Green Berets are asked to try out for Delta Force, with only the top 0.1% making it in. Delta is a "special operations" unit, not "Special Forces," but they are more elite.
Are navy seals the most elite forces?
Their training is the harderst together with the airfoce special forces.
Who is better United Kingdom's SAS or America's Navy SEALs?
This question calls for an 'opinion' and should be answered as such.S.A.S.Well, it's not exactly an opinion but the S.A.S tend to do better in training exercises according to NATO. Navy SealsI would have to say the Navy Seals because after all they are the masters of water, land, and air. SAS are overrated. People think they're the best, truthfully they are elite and awesome at what they do, but there not the best. Rangers hoooahhh!
